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Who is a Novice Investor?

A Real Investor invest for Total Returns, and total returns is made up of BOTH Capital Gains and Income (Cashflow). He/she does NOT go for Cashflow ONLY.


A Smart Investor wants the HIGHEST Total Return and the FACT remains that even if you have 5% Passive Income, it will take 20 years to double your money. I doubled my money in Genting Singapore in just 2 months (from Jul to Sep 2010).

A Real Investor does NOT Buy and Pray. For instance, when I buy a Property Stock with NAV worth S$1.58 and pays S$0.78 for it, this is the Margin of Safety, I don't need to pray, I can sleep with peace of mind. I don't really bother whether the Cashflow (dividends) is 1% or 5%, when I buy this stock.

We don't BUY and Pray, there are FA and TA we can learn and apply to make sure that the Risk/Reward Tradeoff is in Our Favour (upside potential at least double downside risk) before we invest.

Whatever Robert Kiyosaki says only seems to indicate to me that he may NOT be the Guru he claims to be, he seems more like a NOVICE investor, who only know 1 and ONLY Strategy, which seems to be "to Invest on Cashflow".

Too bad he is being seen as a Guru by many people around the world, especially by those who are Financially Illiterate and KNOWS NOTHING about Investing, who think he is Great in Investing.

The more I learn about Investing, the more I find him totally amateurish and laughable. (just a personal opinion, you are perfectly entitled to your own opinion on him).

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shazamnick wrote:
Robert Kiyosaki on Why Gold and Silver Aren't Good investment

Why Gold and Silver Aren't Good Investments
Conspiracy of the Rich

The 8 New Rules of Money

by Robert Kiyosaki
Online Exclusive Update - #87
May 16, 2011

As you know, there are two types of income from investments: capital gains and cash flow. Most novices invest for capital gains. They hope and pray their investment goes up in price. For example, they hope their stocks go up in price or their home goes up in value.

Cash flow investors invest for income on the asset. For example, they invest for cash flow from their real estate or business, dividends from their stocks, or interest from their savings or bonds.

Robert Kiyosaki
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Hi Dennis,

I remember sometime ago when I ask you what are the list of high dividend yield stock in Singapore and you told me that we cannot get rich by just investing in high dividend yield stock. Now I understand what you mean.

Thanks.

James Tai
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jamestai wrote:Hi Dennis,

I remember sometime ago when I ask you what are the list of high dividend yield stock in Singapore and you told me that we cannot get rich by just investing in high dividend yield stock. Now I understand what you mean.

Thanks.

James Tai
Hi Jamestai,
so glad that you now finally understand.

Go through the Notes of How to Save and Accumulate One Million Dollars Seminar, on the 3 Steps to Wealth and you will be very clear.
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NIA Answers to 10 Economic Questions

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Some views and comments by NIA, http://inflation.us on 11 Jun 2011:

Here are the top 10 most important economic questions that NIA answered during the past week.

NIAnswers is currently offline as we program the final version of our software. Up until now, NIAnswers was in the beta phase. The final version should be online by the end of June. Until then, please email your economic questions to us.

1) I bought silver when NIA declared it the best investment for the next decade at $17 per ounce. Should I get out now while I am still up big? For my friends who don't own silver, should I tell them it is too late to invest? What is your outlook for silver in the second half of 2011?

It is dangerous not to own gold and silver. Although the U.S. dollar seems like a safe haven to most Americans because it has a number on it that always stays the same, the U.S. dollar is a fiat currency with no real value because it is no longer backed by gold. The only reason the U.S. dollar still has any purchasing power at all is due to the public's perception that it will always be accepted as money. Gold is the world's most stable asset and silver possesses all of the same monetary qualities as gold, but is a lot more volatile than gold.

We believe silver is a much better bargain than gold because the gold/silver ratio is currently 42 and during periods of high inflation it always declines to 16, which is where the Coinage Act of 1834 defined their values until silver was demonitized in 1873. Ever since silver was demonitized, America has been a fiat country gone insane with Americans being brainwashed into believing silver is only an industrial metal and paper dollars are money. Bernanke's devastating inflationary monetary policies will soon wake Americans up to the truth and we will see a decline in the ratio back to 16 or below permanently, which means we will see at least a 2.625 times increase in purchasing power for those who own silver vs. gold from their current levels. We are 100% confident the gold/silver ratio will at least decline to 16 this decade.

Because silver has been so undervalued for so long with a gold/silver ratio averaging north of 50 for the past century, most silver produced in recent decades has been consumed by industrial purposes and there are actually much larger inventories of gold available above ground today. Most likely we will probably see the gold/silver ratio overcorrect to the downside, possibly down to 10 or lower. Only 10 times more silver has been produced in world history than gold so a gold/silver ratio of 10 is actually a very realistic possibility. This means those who own silver will likely more than quadruple their purchasing power from current levels this decade, while Americans with savings in U.S. dollars lose all of their purchasing power.

COMEX registered physical silver inventories have declined 30% over the past six weeks down to 28.8 million ounces or just $1 billion worth of silver. A major shortage of physical silver is developing. A COMEX default is likely coming in the near-future as those holding futures contracts demand physical delivery and COMEX can't deliver. This could cause an explosion in silver prices, possibly to $100 per ounce overnight.

Silver prices rose too far too fast during the month of April. When we announced silver as the best investment for the next decade at $17 per ounce, we never thought silver would nearly reach $50 per ounce in early 2011. We were looking for silver to reach $50 per ounce in late 2011 with a decline in the gold/silver ratio this year to 38.
When silver reached a new all time nominal high of near $50 per ounce in April, the gold/silver ratio temporarily declined as low as 30.5, far below NIA's outlook for 2011 of 38. Silver prices were due for a natural pullback, but because COMEX raised margin requirements on multiple occasions right when silver began to dip, we saw a very rapid and steep pullback in silver prices due to forced liquidations, profit taking, and panic selling. The timing of COMEX's margin requirement increases can be described in no other way than manipulation.

COMEX has been manipulating down the price of silver in order to help their friends at JP Morgan, who have a huge silver naked short position. The manipulation has allowed JP Morgan to decrease its silver short position to just about its lowest level since it was acquired in 2008 from Bear Stearns with the backing of the Federal Reserve. Without this manipulation, it is possible that after a brief pullback, JP Morgan would be covering its silver short position today above $50 per ounce.

Although the pullback in silver was steep, this was not unexpected. It is something that NIA has warned about on countless occasions. We believe the pullback in silver is now over and most of the silver sold by speculators is now owned by stronger hands that are holding for the long-term. In our opinion, silver will make another move towards $50 per ounce and instead of pulling back, this time silver will break $50 per ounce and reach new all time nominal highs. We don't see much downsize risk for silver, because there are many investors who are waiting to buy as much silver as possible on any kind of dip from these levels.

2) What do you think about the new Utah money where people will be able to pay taxes and each other in gold and silver coins? Do you think this will pass the U.S. Senate and what will that do to silver?

Utah just legalized gold and silver as a currency, which is something that NIA strongly supports. Gold and silver will now be exempt from state capital gains tax in Utah. However, Utah doesn't have the power to exempt it from Federal capital gains tax. We support Ron Paul for President in the 2012 election because he will eliminate Federal taxes on gold and silver. After all, when gold prices go up you actually aren't making money. You are simply retaining your purchasing power as the U.S. dollar goes down. Ron Paul is the only candidate who understands this and understands that the U.S. constitution mandated only gold and silver to be used as legal tender. Fiat currencies are unconstitutional. Ben Bernanke is a criminal who is stealing the wealth of all Americans through inflation and NIA will not stop until all Americans understand the truth.

3) At the price of gold and silver now, is it safe to continue to purchase these metals? When do you plan to sell?

We are still buying gold and silver, and we will hold our gold and silver until the Dow Jones/gold ratio at least declines to 1, the median U.S. home/silver ratio at least declines to 1,000, and the gold/silver ratio at least declines to 16. Only when these ratios are met will it be a sign that it is time to diversify from precious metals. However, we will never sell precious metals in order to buy a fiat currency. We plan to use our precious metals to buy dirt cheap Real Estate in the U.S. once the market has completely bottomed, which is still many years away from happening.

4) What do you mean when you say, "No amount of tax increases and spending decreases will ever allow the U.S. to balance its budget."? Is there no way out of this hole? Is there no way to turn this bus around and prevent it from going over a cliff and into the abyss of hyperinflation?

If the government acted immediately and cut expenses across the board by 50% including entitlement programs, and the Federal Reserve raised interest rates to at least 5% or 6%, we believe hyperinflation could be prevented. However, the government doesn't believe inflation is a problem because the Fed looks at the core consumer price index (CPI), which excludes food and energy, because the Fed says food and energy inflation is transitory. The core CPI is mainly comprised of rents, which is very misleading because rents aren't going to rise by much in the short-term being that we just had the largest Real Estate bubble in history that still isn't done deflating.

Even core CPI will begin rising dramatically eventually. When price inflation becomes so large that the government realizes something must be done and can no longer ignore it, it will be too late. Our budget deficit as a percentage of annual government expenditures is at a level that many other countries were at right before they experienced hyperinflation. What triggered hyperinflation in prior instances is when foreigners stopped lending and a country's own central bank needed to print the money to fund the bulk of a country's deficit spending. We believe our two largest foreign lenders China and Japan are about to pull the plug on the U.S. and the Federal Reserve will become the U.S. treasury buyer of last resort. The Fed already owns more U.S. treasuries than China and Japan, but soon the Fed will be the only treasury buyer left.

If we wait another year to make dramatic spending cuts, it will be too late because soon we will have to deal with rising interest payments on our national debt. The annual interest we pay on our national debt is currently only around $200 billion per year due to our artificially low interest rates. When rates start to rise, annual interest on our debt could easily exceed $1 trillion and cause our budget deficits to explode even higher. The first place the U.S. needs to cut is the military. We need to leave Afghanistan immediately now than Bin Laden is dead and we must stop attacking countries that are no threat to us like Libya.

5) One of the issues that has propped up the dollar for decades is the ability of the U.S. government to "enforce" the dollar because of its enormous and superior military. What are your thoughts about this?

We don't think we can threaten other countries by force and make them continue buying U.S. treasuries because if they stopped buying our debt, the dollar would collapse and we won't have the resources to fund our military. Some people believe the world is buying our treasuries because they like the U.S. military policing the world, but we strongly disagree. We believe the world resents the U.S. for maintaining its 700 military bases in 130 countries. In our opinion, we are gaining enemies this way. China and Japan would be much better off using the money they spend on U.S. treasuries to expand the size of their own militaries. When the dollar collapses due to hyperinflation, no longer will the U.S. be the world's superpower due to its military. China's military will eventually exceed the size of ours. Our current military empire where we spend just about the same on defense as the rest of the world combined is unsustainable and over the long-term this wasteful spending is making us a lot less safe as a result. Having a safe and stable currency is the most important fundamental building block of having a safe and stable country.

6) We have a nation full of incredibly financially smart folks who should be concentrating on the solution instead of the problem. Where are they and why isn't anyone stepping up to the plate to try to save our country? I heard that Donald Trump had a plan to get us out of debt but don't know what that plan is. Have you heard about this plan and is it credible?

Donald Trump isn't very credible when it comes to getting out of debt, because his casino company is one of the most indebted companies in the world and it has filed for bankruptcy on numerous occasions. But then again, the U.S. is for all intents and purposes bankrupt so if Donald Trump changed his mind and decided to run for President, he could campaign based on his experience with reorganizing under bankruptcy and keeping companies alive and operating despite them being bankrupt. Unfortunately, Donald Trump has screwed over his shareholders countless times who were left with nothing, so he would probably also screw over holders of U.S. dollars who would be left with worthless pieces of paper that have no purchasing power.

7) When do you expect inflation to crimp the margins of consumer discretionary stocks?

Inflation is already hurting the margins of many consumer discretionary stocks that have been reporting earnings in recent weeks, which is something NIA predicted would happen late last year. Retailers are passing some of their rising costs on to their customers, but are reluctant to pass all of them on. Many retailers are passing on 1/2 of their rising wholesale costs by raising retail prices and eating the other 1/2 through shrinking gross margins. This same thing is happening to the product manufacturers who are seeing large raw material input cost increases. They are eating some of their rising costs to stay competitive and passing the rest on to their customers. Many manufacturers and retailers are hoping that Bernanke is right and that commodity inflation is transitory. Although some commodities have run too far too fast and will dip in the short-term as the dollar makes a possible temporary bounce, we can assure you that inflation is not transitory and the dollar collapse has just begun.

8) NIA says there is no chance of the U.S. ever balancing its budget, without eliminating the so-called untouchable entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. How exactly would the disabled live if these entitlement programs were gone? It sounds like retirement would have to be eliminated. Would a person basically have to work to death?

Retirement will become a thing of the past for Americans relying on Social Security to retire as well as Americans with their savings in U.S. dollars. Seniors who are not relying on Social Security and have at least one third of the savings necessary to retire, and are smart enough to invest their savings now into silver, we believe will be able to retire and stay retired as they will increase their purchasing power while the rest of America goes broke. NIA expects to see a major trend in the upcoming years of retired Americans reentering the workforce as their Social Security checks continue to buy less and less. Seniors haven't seen any Social Security cost-of-living adjustment increases in years, despite there being massive price inflation, especially for food and energy. Adjusted for real price inflation, Americans receiving Social Security today should be receiving almost triple the amount that they are currently receiving.

9) When the U.S. dollar drops to zero value and it becomes necessary to use gold for daily needs, how will the exchange of goods for gold be accomplished? How do I use a 1 ounce gold coin, with present value of about $1,500, to purchase a loaf of bread and/or a quart of milk, for example? How will these 1 ounce coins be broken down?

It is possible to buy American Eagle and Canadian Maple Leaf gold coins that are as small as 1/10 of an ounce, but NIA strongly recommends against buying these coins because you will likely end up paying a 15% premium for them compared to just a 4% premium for the 1 ounce versions of these coins. We believe silver will be more commonly used for bartering purposes, as silver is currently around $36 per ounce and a few ounces of silver can easily buy a week's worth of groceries for a family. In fact, with the gold/silver ratio currently at 42 despite the fact that only 10 times more silver has been produced in world history than gold (with most of this silver being consumed for industrial purposes never to be seen again), NIA believes silver is undervalued compared to gold and will increase around 3 to 4 times in purchasing power compared to gold this decade. Therefore, it is possible that only 1 ounce of silver could be enough to buy a week's worth of groceries for a family during hyperinflation.
10) One of your stock suggestions from August of 2009 was Capital Gold at $2.48 per share and it was recently acquired by Gammon Gold for $6.56 per share. Do you have any opinions on Gammon?

A few weeks ago one of NIA's co-founders had a meeting with the co-founders of Gammon Gold (they left Gammon years ago and we didn't know them until after Gammon had already acquired Capital Gold). They told us that they have strong confidence in Gammon's current management team. We believe Gammon is a solid company for the long-term, but we also believe there are much bigger opportunities out there. We liked Capital Gold because it was one of the lowest market cap publicly traded gold producers that was profitable with a strong balance sheet. Gammon was very smart for acquiring Capital Gold because it was accretive to their EPS. However, it will be very difficult for Gammon to grow organically. Gammon's future revenue growth will likely come from both rising gold prices and possible further acquisitions. It will be hard for them to find another amazing acquisition opportunity like Capital Gold was. Gammon is changing its corporate name and starting next week will be known as AuRico Gold.

NIA is not an investment advisor. NIA's NIAnswers are meant for informational and educational purposes only. Never make investment decisions based on any information contained in any of NIA's NIAnswers. Just because many of NIA's previous economic predictions and forecasts were accurate, doesn't mean NIA's future economic predictions and forecasts will be accurate. All of NIA's predictions and forecasts could turn out to be completely wrong.

It is important to spread the word about NIA to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible, if you want America to survive hyperinflation. Please tell everybody you know to become members of NIA for free immediately at: http://inflation.us
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Dennis Ng wrote:On 24 May 2011, Utah in U.S. just passed law for Gold and Silver to be legal currency, another 12 states are in the process of doing so as well. What do you think will happen to value of US$ or price of Gold and /silver when more States legalise Gold and silver as currency?

If people in U.S. are starting to lose their confidence in US$, who are we to be so confident about the future of US$?

Currently, about 13 states in United States of America are in the process of "legalising" Gold and Silver to be Legal Currency...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUDDZcz3SLM

In "Wu Xia" Movies, we used to see gongfu heros going to inns and putting a Silver nugget on the table and order "waiter, bring me some good food and wine".

Imagine, in the not so distant future, you can go to McDonald's in U.S. and pass them a Silver coin and say "One Big Mac please!"

And ask around you, how many of your friends have any MONEY invested into Gold or Silver? Less than 5% according to my estimates.

Most people will be badly prepared for such a possible scenario and would see their Wealth being wiped out without even knowing why.

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http://www.allgov.com/Controversies/Vie ... ins_110524

Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Utah First State to Legalize Gold and Silver Coins
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Frustrated over the monetary policies of the Federal Reserve and the devaluing of the U.S. dollar, lawmakers in Utah have legalized the use of gold and silver as currency, making the state the first in the country to move in this direction.

But using the precious metals to buy things could be difficult, given that most businesses are not set up to handle gold and silver coins.

Entrepreneur Craig Franco is seeking to take advantage of the situation by creating his Utah Gold and Silver Depository, in which people would turn over their coins in exchange for a debit-like card that could be used to make purchases.

At the moment, a one-ounce gold coin would be worth $50. An ounce of per gold is currently going for $1,500 on the stock market. Utah’s law exempts the sale of gold and silver coins from state capital gains taxes.

A dozen other states are considering the idea of expanding currency options to include gold and silver.

U.S. currency used to be backed by gold, but in 1971 President Richard Nixon abandoned the gold standard.
Hi Dennis,

Saw this from one Peter Schiff article "Imagine a day when you go to buy a quart of milk, ask the price, and the cashier says, "that'll be a tenth ounce silver." As the US dollar's decline accelerates, several efforts around the country are trying to make this vision a reality."

He is having the same view as you. The only thing is that you already told us in May.

http://www.investmentnews.com/article/2 ... /110709989

Cheers
KK
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In case you are wondering why Silver and Gold prices cheong today, the reason is


Bernanke: Fed May Launch New Round of Stimulus
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Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress Wednesday that a new stimulus program is in the works that will entail additional asset purchases, the clearest indication yet that the central bank is contemplating another round of monetary easing
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shazamnick wrote:In case you are wondering why Silver and Gold prices cheong today, the reason is


Bernanke: Fed May Launch New Round of Stimulus
Published: Wednesday, 13 Jul 2011 | 10:06 AM ET Text Size
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Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress Wednesday that a new stimulus program is in the works that will entail additional asset purchases, the clearest indication yet that the central bank is contemplating another round of monetary easing
Hi all,

as I have expected, it is just a matter of time that U.S. will implement QE3, maybe as soon as Aug once the U.S. debt limit has been increased...

So be prepared for the last Rally in the Current Bull Markets, many stocks would go up, Blue Chips, Red Chips, even Potato Chips (lousy stocks) would go up...

But please remember that after the last Rally ends, it'll be the arrival of the next Global Financial Crisis, likely to be worse than that in year 2008.

And of course, I'm repeating myself again, these are things I said since Oct 2010.

Cheers!

Dennis Ng

woonty wrote:
yumengyew wrote:Hi Dennis, is there a possibility that the FED choose not raise rate despite the inflation? And what might happen then?

Are there also other option(s) that the FED can take?

Thanks!
Yes, listen to Peter Schiff on Bill Gross's comments inside this video...

http://peterschiffblog.blogspot.com/201 ... e-qe3.html
21 Jun 2011:

Hi all,
it seems like even Bill Gross (King of Bonds) and Peter Schiff (who also foresaw the last Financial Crisis in year 2008) hold very similar views as me.

And you would know that I have shared these views they said BEFORE they now say all these things. But just that Dennis Ng is only known in Singapore and not globally, so my views were not known to the world, be it CNBC, The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times etc.

Otherwise, they might be amazed that someone in Small Red Dot Singapore predicted failure of QE 2 in Oct 2010 (before QE 2 was even officially approved) and in Oct 2010, already knew that when QE 2 fail, they have to continue printing money (whether that is called QE 3 or some other names, as Bill Gross and Peter Schiff said, is NOT important, it is still printing money.

Since Oct 2010, I also already warned that there'll be a Next Global Financial Crisis, and it might hit us in end 2011 or by Jun 2012...let's wait and see if it happens.
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24 Jul 2011

The main stream media, headed by Straits Times, are still talking about Gold. But our forumers (seminar graduates) would KNOW that I've been saying that Silver has better upside potential.

And you would be glad if you had listened to me. In Jan 2010, Gold was US$1,100, now US$1,600 or up 50%. While Silver was US$17 and now US$40, or up 135%!!!

Upside potential for Gold is US$1,700 to US$2,000. While silver upside is US$49 to US$70, while downside is US$33. So, which is better, Gold or Silver?

Cheers!

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Jul 24, 2011
Tip for investors: Go for gold
The precious metal has proved to be one of the best assets since 2007
By Aaron Low, Economics Correspondent

If there is one asset class that has continued to thrive in the past five years of financial ups and downs, it is gold.

Last week, at the height of the worries over the European and American debt crises, gold soared to hit a record high of US$1,610 an ounce.

Indeed, the price of gold has been climbing steadily since 2007, rising from US$640 per ounce to the current US$1,590 per ounce.

This represents roughly 20 per cent returns a year compounded, making gold one of the best assets to have invested in.

Its attractiveness as an asset class is well-known: Investors mainly use it as a hedge against the traditional asset classes of equities and bonds.

It also helps that gold is a cultural icon, used in many Asian customs such as weddings, making demand for the metal resilient.

For these reasons, analysts believe that all investors should hold gold in their portfolios.

UOB's director of bullion sales, global markets and investment management, Ms Beh Hsia Wa, said many people invest in gold to deal with problems arising from inflation or a downturn.

'Gold may be a good approach to balance one's portfolio as the precious metal has shown strong returns over recent years,' she said.

'The fact that it is not correlated with most other assets means that the price of gold is not driven by the same factors that affect the performance of other assets.'

She cited several factors likely to support demand for gold: declining mine output, weaker recycling, gold purchases by central banks, geopolitical tensions and concerns over sovereign debt.

'Low interest cost has also reduced the opportunity cost of owning gold and makes it a more attractive investment,' said Ms Beh, noting that US interest rates have hovered at 0.25 per cent since December 2009.

Given that background, gold, which does not pay interest or a yield, becomes attractive.

OCBC vice-president for wealth management Vasu Menon said gold is an asset class for all kinds of investors, not just the wealthy.

But he noted that it is a very volatile asset class and suitable for those with a strong risk appetite.

For instance, the price of gold is strongly inversely related to the strength of the US dollar and global risk appetite.

While both the US dollar and the global economy have been performing weakly lately, there is no ruling out that both might rebound in the years ahead.

'Even if you have a strong risk appetite and are positive on the outlook for gold, it's important to make sure that you don't get carried away and over-invest in it,' he said.

'Five per cent to 10 per cent of one's total investments could be an allocation to consider when investing in gold.'

But for investors who have not yet jumped in, is it too late now that the gold price has hit yet another record high?

Mr Menon said that while it is hard to make a prediction about the price of gold in the short term, the bank is more positive about the outlook in the medium term.

For investors who do want to start investing in gold, there is a multitude of tools one can use.

One can buy physical gold anywhere, from pawnshops to banks.

UOB, for instance, sells gold coins and gold bars - the bank was selling a 1kg gold bar for $62,542 as of Thursday.

Investors can also buy into gold-backed exchange traded funds which can be bought and sold on the stock exchange.

In Singapore, investors can buy and sell SPDR Gold shares, which are listed on the Singapore exchange.

aaronl@sph.com.sg
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Hi all,

Thinking ahead days before US debt ceiling will be approved, two scenarios will occur:

Scenario 1 Increase debt ceiling : flight to safety will stop. Gold & Silver holders will sell, price will drop, crisis averted (for now). Stock markets will Boom.

Scenario 2 No go on debt ceiling : flight to safety will accelerate. Gold & Silver holders and newbies will buy, price will rise, America defaults, gov't benefits and paychecks stop, world descends into apocalypse.


Since scenario 1 is more likely to happen, there will be 2 scenarios for us to react to profit:

Action 1 : SHORT Gold or Silver since majority will take-profit
Action 2: Load more Gold or Silver at lower price.
Action 3: Do nothing

For me, I will most probably choose Action 1(hit and run) .

What will you do?

Thank you.
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shazamnick wrote:Hi all,

Thinking ahead days before US debt ceiling will be approved, two scenarios will occur:

Scenario 1 Increase debt ceiling : flight to safety will stop. Gold & Silver holders will sell, price will drop, crisis averted (for now). Stock markets will Boom.

Scenario 2 No go on debt ceiling : flight to safety will accelerate. Gold & Silver holders and newbies will buy, price will rise, America defaults, gov't benefits and paychecks stop, world descends into apocalypse.


Since scenario 1 is more likely to happen, there will be 2 scenarios for us to react to profit:

Action 1 : SHORT Gold or Silver since majority will take-profit
Action 2: Load more Gold or Silver at lower price.
Action 3: Do nothing

For me, I will most probably choose Action 1(hit and run) .

What will you do?

Thank you.
Debt limit increase will be approved, just a matter of time. Thereafter, U.S. will print money, when they print money, will Silver/Gold price go up or down?
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Dennis Ng wrote:
shazamnick wrote:Hi all,

Thinking ahead days before US debt ceiling will be approved, two scenarios will occur:

Scenario 1 Increase debt ceiling : flight to safety will stop. Gold & Silver holders will sell, price will drop, crisis averted (for now). Stock markets will Boom.

Scenario 2 No go on debt ceiling : flight to safety will accelerate. Gold & Silver holders and newbies will buy, price will rise, America defaults, gov't benefits and paychecks stop, world descends into apocalypse.


Since scenario 1 is more likely to happen, there will be 2 scenarios for us to react to profit:

Action 1 : SHORT Gold or Silver since majority will take-profit
Action 2: Load more Gold or Silver at lower price.
Action 3: Do nothing

For me, I will most probably choose Action 1(hit and run) .

What will you do?

Thank you.
Debt limit increase will be approved, just a matter of time. Thereafter, U.S. will print money, when they print money, will Silver/Gold price go up or down?
Hi Dennis,

Yes, Silver/Gold price will go up with new money printed. However, having caught in the last sell-down correction and knowing that a small correction will come soon after the sharp surge in recent Silver price, I hope to take advantage in the price correction, short it and runaway, and thereafter, continue to load more silver at lower price. Of course, this come with a risk.

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Hi Dennis,
When US print money, USD will drop and Gold and Silver will go up , correct ?
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mengfei wrote:Hi Dennis,
When US print money, USD will drop and Gold and Silver will go up , correct ?
yup.
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mengfei wrote:Hi Dennis,
When US print money, USD will drop and Gold and Silver will go up , correct ?
If Congress reaches an agreement and the debt ceiling is raised, gold and silver should go up.

If there is no agreement and there is a default, gold and silver might go up but in a parabolic move.

Either way gold and silver will continue to rise in the long term (with short term correction along the way) as long as the US and European economies continue to debase their currencies by the printing of fiat paper money to try to pay off their debt with paper of a lesser value.

:D
woonty
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woonty wrote:
mengfei wrote:Hi Dennis,
When US print money, USD will drop and Gold and Silver will go up , correct ?
If Congress reaches an agreement and the debt ceiling is raised, gold and silver should go up.

If there is no agreement and there is a default, gold and silver might go up but in a parabolic move.

Either way gold and silver will continue to rise in the long term (with short term correction along the way) as long as the US and European economies continue to debase their currencies by the printing of fiat paper money to try to pay off their debt with paper of a lesser value.

:D
woonty
I agree with woonty's comments.
Cheers!

Dennis Ng - When You Master Your Finances, You Master Your Destiny

Note: I'm just sharing my personal comments, not giving you investment advice nor stock investment tips.
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