I broke an arrow with my throat today with T. Harv Eker!

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I broke an arrow with my throat today with T. Harv Eker!

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I attended the First Millionaire Mind Intensive Program in Asia conducted by T. Harv Eker (author of book "Secrets of The Millionaire Mind") from 23 to 25 Nov 2007 in Singapore Expo Hall 2.

The one thing that stops most people from taking action is Fear. What is Fear? T. Harv Eker defines Fear as "Anticipation of Pain"...so to avoid feeling possible pain, people just do not take action.

We need to learn to "act in spite of fear".

And today on the final day of Millionaire Mind Intensive Program, the "exercise" we have to show we truly can act in spite of fear is asking over 4,000 participants in the program to "break an arrow with our throat"..... a feat that I've seen peformed on TV but never imagined myself having ever to attempt one myself.

Would you attempt to break an arrow with your throat if you are asked to do it?

After Harv Eker gave the instructions on how to break an arrow with our throat safely, participants are asked to sign an indemnity form......some particpants quickly made their way to exit to "give up" participating in this Break the Arrow" exercise...

The rest, over 90% of the participants proceeded to leave our seats for the "break the arrow" exercise.

As we gathered in our groups of 10 to 12 people, I could see "worry" written on most people's faces...I told my group, it is ok, since more than half a milion people who attend Harv Eker's program have already attempted what we did.....that did little to lighten the worry look on most people.

When it came to my turn to break the arrow, on one hand I know I can do it as well since some of my group members have already done it, but psychologically, I still felt the fear within me.....I hesitated in my first attempt, and managed to break the arrow with the 2nd attempt...as each of us completed our "test", group members hugged and congratulated him/her for overcoming his/her fear...

I think the memory of this exercise will stay in my mind for a long time, just like what happened after I did the "walking over hot coals" in Anthony Robbins's Unleash the Power Within weeked in year 2001 when Anthony Robbins first came to Singapore.......there I am again today attending Harv Eker's First Millionairemind Intensive Program in Asia...

Despite the long hours we had (Friday was 9 am to 10.50 pm), (Saturday was 9 am to 10 pm) and today from 8 am to 7 pm.....I'm tired but "energised" within, as I know that some of the fears that I have are just "imagination" in my mind and it would spur me on to remember how to overcome my fear by "just moving forward"....
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Re: I broke an arrow with my throat today with T. Harv Eker!

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Property company, Dennis Wee Group also has similar course for their property agents, supposedly to overcome fear but a much lower price.
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We need to learn to "act in spite of fear".

And today on the final day of Millionaire Mind Intensive Program, the "exercise" we have to show we truly can act in spite of fear is asking over 4,000 participants in the program to "break an arrow with our throat"..... a feat that I've seen peformed on TV but never imagined myself having ever to attempt one myself.

Would you attempt to break an arrow with your throat if you are asked to do it?
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Re: I broke an arrow with my throat today with T. Harv Eker!

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Hi candy_chia,

not sure how much Dennis Wee charge, but I paid only S$75 for the T. Harv Eker's seminar. It is actually used by T. Harv Eker as a preview to sell his other seminars.

The Mindset of the Rich is we do NOT focus on Cost alone, we always compare Cost vs Benefits. While the average person always focus on price, they prefer cheaper price.

I can pay more for something, provided I know the Benefits outweigh the Cost. I've personally spent over S$150,000 buying books and attending seminars in the last 11 years.

Cheers!

Dennis Ng
candy_chia wrote:Property company, Dennis Wee Group also has similar course for their property agents, supposedly to overcome fear but a much lower price.
Dennis Ng wrote:
We need to learn to "act in spite of fear".

And today on the final day of Millionaire Mind Intensive Program, the "exercise" we have to show we truly can act in spite of fear is asking over 4,000 participants in the program to "break an arrow with our throat"..... a feat that I've seen peformed on TV but never imagined myself having ever to attempt one myself.

Would you attempt to break an arrow with your throat if you are asked to do it?
Cheers!

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Note: I'm just sharing my personal comments, not giving you investment advice nor stock investment tips.
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Post by meowweom »

dear candy

A)
in year 1998 or 1999 i went to Dennis Wee ppty seminar full of hopes and dreams and got all e confidence from their ppty agt seminar, but bk then i didnt make a cut as an agt even aft learning e skills and abt positive thinking, quite embarassing.

but i didnt shy away, i occassionally read books fm Napoleon Hill, Anthony Robbins, Robert Kirosaki, Warren Buffet, Erckhart Tolle, Rhonda Byrne(some of the books was either very deep or very dry or i juz not tere yet). i took me many years (close to 10yrs) before i'm awakened (at least 75%) and do an internal brain looping, to realise what i shld b doing correctly.

B)
at the end of the day, i always tell all my friends, its all about how well u know abt urself, ur pros and cons, ur real interests, ur characters, ur integrity, ....

fm the above, u may kw whether u b employee, employer, work as a group or a loner, can b day trader or value investor, love ur job\career, work for money or for passion, hv the revelant skills required?

next +ADD positive thinking to boost ur fire\energy to charge forward irregardless of any objection or failure along e path.

C)
lastly, ur fate is in the hand of others or divine, cos only 20% of human beings will be very successful, 50%-60% will be juz doing fine and remaining 20% may be struggling or worst than before.
The universe hv alot of powerful secrets to be discover by us, ur good strong positive mind will be a great help.

good luck w ur learning journey and learn wisely fm all good sifus, DN is one of those tat share wholeheartedly. and many others here tat contribute, its nice to be in a +ve good environment.

ehehehe... aft a long while in ur learning journey, u will kw who is talking cock or speaking without hidden agenda 金玉良言. juz like those speakers in the last SAT chinese shares conference.

juz my 2cts worth brainy talk. :roll:
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Post by candy_chia »

Hi meowweom,

Not everyone is suitable to become a property agent, a lot are cunning and unethical! (it's a fact, not trying to offend anyone who is a property agent here)

That's why I always sell my own hdb flats myself as haven't found any good and trustworthy one , at the same time also save 2% commission!!!
meowweom wrote:dear candy

A)
in year 1998 or 1999 i went to Dennis Wee ppty seminar full of hopes and dreams and got all e confidence from their ppty agt seminar, but bk then i didnt make a cut as an agt even aft learning e skills and abt positive thinking, quite embarassing.
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candy_chia wrote:Hi meowweom,

Not everyone is suitable to become a property agent, a lot are cunning and unethical! (it's a fact, not trying to offend anyone who is a property agent here)

That's why I always sell my own hdb flats myself as haven't found any good and trustworthy one , at the same time also save 2% commission!!!
Hi all,
actually I always have a thought in my mind.

If I were to set up a Property Agency that is different from the rest. ie.

1. Ethical
2. Put clients' interests first
3. Emphasis is on Professionalism and Guiding buyers/sellers.

I think this company will attract many customers without even spending much money on flyers/advertisements.

The problem is this is NOT my passion and thus, till now, I have NOT taken action to make this a reality.

In year 2001, it was the thought of providing Unbiased Professional Advice/Comparison of Housing Loans, that I became probably the first Mortgage Broker then...(I was one-man show then)...only in year 2003, that my wife resigned from the bank and we set up a separate company to provide Mortgage Broking service...

Nowadays, there are many Mortgage Broking firms, but the Sad Fact is few of them are truly unbiased, most of them are just focus on their own interests instead of clients' interests.

Now my wife manage the day to day operations of the company allowing me to focus most of my energy and time on educating the public through seminars, through this forum, facebook postings and various contribution to the media, including writing a Personal Finance column on a fortnightly basis for My Paper since 8 Jan 2008.

Banks were surprised when I told them we don't do cold call (telemarketing calls) nor we do send out unsolicited SMS to get business. For most other companies, these 2 are the common ways how they get new customers.

Our business are primarily through referrals from existing clients and from people getting to know us through my comments on Housing Loans in the media.
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Post by meowweom »

dear candy

whether e ppty agent is ethical or not, juz look bk at my paragraph :
B) ur integrity.

tere r many factors tat affect a person judgement, it is more intense for people that r self-employed and those doing biz due to uncertainity in life and income. The more hungry ones may get aggressive and slowly lost their original pure identify\interests. and they will self convince themselves that they dun hv a choice, its for survivalship >人在江湖,身不由己.

If a sales hd done its best w client interests in mind, people can see and kw that this agent is ethical, wealth will still enter and he still can sleep soundly w/o guilt.

the coin hv both sides.
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My current 5-room ghim moh flat is purchased via an experienced agent, paid 1% commission, but she communicate mainly (90% of the time) through sms, (phone call very expensive & waste time!!!). Arranging appointment for inspection of seller's flat, but called up 10 minutes after we reached seller's house that she was conducting viewing at Changi, can't make it!

On day of 2nd hdb appointment, this agent caused us some frustration, like refusing to collect the keys on our behalf, etc.

Frustrated with her unprofessional service, I delayed the payment of commission until her agency cancel the exclusive to sell my flat after the company dragged for nearly 1 month.
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candy_chia wrote:Hi meowweom,

Not everyone is suitable to become a property agent, a lot are cunning and unethical! (it's a fact, not trying to offend anyone who is a property agent here)

That's why I always sell my own hdb flats myself as haven't found any good and trustworthy one , at the same time also save 2% commission!!!
Hi all,
actually I always have a thought in my mind.

If I were to set up a Property Agency that is different from the rest. ie.

1. Ethical
2. Put clients' interests first
3. Emphasis is on Professionalism and Guiding buyers/sellers.

I think this company will attract many customers without even spending much money on flyers/advertisements.

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Post by Dennis Ng »

candy_chia wrote:My current 5-room ghim moh flat is purchased via an experienced agent, paid 1% commission, but she communicate mainly (90% of the time) through sms, (phone call very expensive & waste time!!!). Arranging appointment for inspection of seller's flat, but called up 10 minutes after we reached seller's house that she was conducting viewing at Changi, can't make it!

On day of 2nd hdb appointment, this agent caused us some frustration, like refusing to collect the keys on our behalf, etc.

Frustrated with her unprofessional service, I delayed the payment of commission until her agency cancel the exclusive to sell my flat after the company dragged for nearly 1 month.
Hi candy_chia,

many property agents are not ethical, many are not professional.

But there are indeed Professional and Ethical Agents.

There are always rotten apples. But do NOT stop eating apples after tasting rotten apples.

I have spoken to seminar graduate meowweom. From our conversation, I find her quite sincere. But I have never engaged her services before, so I cannot give any further comments.

Even from her postings in this forum, I find her quite sincere.
Last edited by Dennis Ng on Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by candy_chia »

Will find 1 good "apple" one day! Cheers!
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Hi candy_chia,

many property agents are not ethical, many are not professional.

But there are indeed Professional and Ethical Agents.

There are always rotten apples. But do NOT stop eating apples after tasting rotten apples.
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Post by Dennis Ng »

There are quite a number of Property agents amongst seminar graduates. Those who I spoke to before, all appear to be good apples.

I believe in the Law of Attraction. This community only attracts good people. Becos people who share should be good people by nature.

Cheers!

Dennis Ng
candy_chia wrote:Will find 1 good "apple" one day! Cheers!
Dennis Ng wrote:
Hi candy_chia,

many property agents are not ethical, many are not professional.

But there are indeed Professional and Ethical Agents.

There are always rotten apples. But do NOT stop eating apples after tasting rotten apples.
Cheers!

Dennis Ng - When You Master Your Finances, You Master Your Destiny

Note: I'm just sharing my personal comments, not giving you investment advice nor stock investment tips.
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Post by stanlee »

I'm also a licensed property agent :) i intend to invest in 2nd property when my MOP is up in 2013, that's why i went for the course to understand the industry better. I think its a worthwhile investment as i spent about $2k+ in total to get the license, as compare to hundreds of thousands that I going to invest in property..

i joined under one of my old school mates but sad to say he is not very ethical. he has tons of undertable methods of doing thing but that is not what I want to learn from..anyway it helps to open my eyes wider. i'm quite inactive actually but will keep this option open..afterall this is like owning a business, and its based on commission and not fixed salary :)
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stanlee wrote:I'm also a licensed property agent :) i intend to invest in 2nd property when my MOP is up in 2013, that's why i went for the course to understand the industry better. I think its a worthwhile investment as i spent about $2k+ in total to get the license, as compare to hundreds of thousands that I going to invest in property..

i joined under one of my old school mates but sad to say he is not very ethical. he has tons of undertable methods of doing thing but that is not what I want to learn from..anyway it helps to open my eyes wider. i'm quite inactive actually but will keep this option open..afterall this is like owning a business, and its based on commission and not fixed salary :)
Hi Stanlee,
How do one go about getting a licence without actually practising as a property agent? Appreciate your input.
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Post by slee »

Hi equilat,

You can find out more on the licensing from :
http://www.cea.gov.sg/cea/content/estat ... .html#lnkD

Under the Registration Criteria for New Salespersons
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equilat wrote:
stanlee wrote:I'm also a licensed property agent :) i intend to invest in 2nd property when my MOP is up in 2013, that's why i went for the course to understand the industry better. I think its a worthwhile investment as i spent about $2k+ in total to get the license, as compare to hundreds of thousands that I going to invest in property..

i joined under one of my old school mates but sad to say he is not very ethical. he has tons of undertable methods of doing thing but that is not what I want to learn from..anyway it helps to open my eyes wider. i'm quite inactive actually but will keep this option open..afterall this is like owning a business, and its based on commission and not fixed salary :)
Hi Stanlee,
How do one go about getting a licence without actually practising as a property agent? Appreciate your input.
Hi equilat,

I actually got my license less than a year so not very sure what will happen to my license after a year if i do not close any deal. From what i understand different agencies have different policies, take mine as example (ERA) if i'm not wrong i need to close at least one deal (new project or rental also considered as deal) in a year if not they will suspend me from practising. I'm not too concern with this as i believe i can join other agencies or rejoin them if i've listing on hands..what i more concern is whether the govt (CEA) will revoke my license, right now the requirements by them is to pass the exam and attend minimum 6 hours of CPD (continuing professional development) in a year. i about to find this out and will let you know again.

hope i've answered your question :)
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