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By Mossie on Friday, June 30, 2000 - 12:08 am:
Folks,
I have another story to tell. This time, it's a sad story.
Two days ago, I received word that my former remisier whom I dealt with during my days of folly (1995 to 1997), had just been served with a bankruptcy order. He's in his mid forties and he has four kids, the youngest just five years old. His wife has been forced to work again.
Apparently, his "clients'" contra losses amounted to $1.5m and the broking co. pulled the plug on him. The losses have been outstanding for the past two years. In reality, his "clients'" contra losses were actually his own.
I guess I saw this coming years ago. He was actually my partner in "crime" because we essentially punted the same kind of counters. However, his play size was much larger, much much larger. When I contra-ed on positions of $100,000, his would be $300,000.
I thought he would have learnt his lesson during the Asian crisis. When my semi-detached had to be liquidated, his private apartment had to be sold too. After I sold my house, I moved back with my relatives while he bought a resale 4 room flat.
The similarities between the two of us ended in 1997.
Short of funds, I stepped out of the "casino" and went into a period of introspection for eight months. I analysed my every mistake using charts to pinpoint my entry & exit points. I was determined not to trade at all until I knew where I went wrong.
He, well, he stayed inside the casino and raked up another $1m in losses.
How did he rake up more losses? He felt that, since he had already lost his money, he might as well try to make it back. He tried all the various methods from spending thousands of $$ attending classes on Gann, to methods that involved trading according to stars. Yes, he was also a syndicate member in various counters.
His determination to learn various trading methods was NOT the mistake he committed.
His problem was that his EGO "told" him that he could beat Mr Market. He always felt that he was bigger than Mr Market. So he kept on initiating new positions, trading the little squiggles, the up's and down's.
He was hoping that his trading profits provided his monthly salary. Before he knew it, he went beyond the point of no return. The losses amounted to millions.
I did try to get him to change. I shared with him my research on TIBS, showing him my photocopied copies of the LTA white paper. I showed him the charts of TIBS, how the stock had stopped falling. I told him I had spotted reversal patterns and used volume studies to prove that Invisible Hands (insiders) were accumulating stock. I shared what I thought were basement prices using charts, volume studies and fundamentals.
You would have thought he would be interested in what I had to say. But, NO!
His reply stumped me till today?? He said my strategy was the right strategy PROVIDED that I had the capital to HOLD for the long term. As for him, he doesn't have the capital and so, he had to trade/contra to MAKE the capital. In my mind, I remember clearly my thoughts then; he wasn't Jesse Livermore.
Folks, let's stop & think about this for a while.
Are we OUR worse enemy? What are some trading habits we have that are SELF DESTRUCTIVE? Are we the lazy sort that expects "manna" & rumours to fall from heaven? Do you expect tips to make you money OR are you the sort that believe in hard work, to find out facts for yourselves.
Do you lay blame on yourself, the market & circumstances? Or do you think you are (attributes of fear & greed) your worse enemy?
As an active investor, I ask myself these questions every week.I also remind myself, "BE DISCIPLINED or THE MARKET WILL DISCIPLINE ME". The Market is forever a disciplinarian, especially against those that are lazy & uninformed.
Folks, please set your own rules or the market will set its rules for you.
Kindest regards to all.
alvin wrote:
Read more about Dennis's sifus:
Mozzie: http://forum.shareinvestor.com/archive/ ... /0EE7038D/
Warren: http://forum.shareinvestor.com/archive/ ... /0EE7074D/
Dennis himself in shareinvestor forum: http://forum.shareinvestor.com/archive/ ... /0EE6FFA2/
Ask me if the slides are unclear or if you have other questions regarding the stuffs shared during the session.